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[MAFIA] Problems at the Precinct.

Anything's useful if you believe hard enough.

[MAFIA] Problems at the Precinct.

Odd suck all that self-consciousness up. I believe in you, you can do it! Don't hold back on your opinions, just let out all your thoughts!

[MAFIA] Problems at the Precinct.

Oh, okay then Isrieri! ^-^ I'd love to hear your input on it.

[MAFIA] Problems at the Precinct.

I'm 90% sure that it's Cap so
#Lynch Cap_H

The Hero of Legacy Review

Anarchy was supposed to be incredibly hard, she had 20k HP in the original download. This is the same thing I've been told by everyone else, I didn't think it was that bad to be honest, since it was meant to be like that and my beta testers legit had no problem :\ The wall of text I don't see the problem with because several good old games did that, and all of it was honestly important, though I guess I get it went to fast though I worked really hard to make sure it didn't. Shadows were another difficulty level done on purpose. This game was meant to be an extreme challenge, to be honest.

I'll keep this in mind I guess, since it's not the first time I've gotten this feedback, though it was me experimenting with the battle system with my first rpg and a lot of the things people had problems with were done on purpose so. But thanks again for the review piano.

[MAFIA] Problems at the Precinct.

Well, not sure how well my first big scum hunt try was. But I was at least trying to be helpful and useful. I might have misread or misunderstood some stuff as always since I'm great at that, but feel free to call me on it. I'm sure it'll help me better such posts for later on. I have a bit more on Cap if you want to see more inputs on him, but for now, that post has wiped me out and I got other stuff to do.

[MAFIA] Problems at the Precinct.

author=Cap_H
I think some people are off. Piano posted a lot but he didn't anyone, which could be seen as wolfy if he continues with it.


author=pianotm
In fact, now that I think about it, Cap_H has correctly identified that I'm not voting as wildly as I usually do.


author=Cap_H
Piano's posts are very reasonable and his reaction to Izri was ok-ish. I don't like his case on Demon, which feels slightly belated.


author=Cap_H
Isrieri's push on Piano is good, but It looks wrong to me.


Cap first said that Piano was being off and kind of wolfy. Piano agreed that Cap had even pointed it out, I thought this was just piano becoming aware how he was playing differently, I hadn't expected him to actually be scum. Could this be probable town credit in case piano had known there was a chance he died? A little after Cap begins to say Piano is being very reasonable. So was piano being off or was Piano being reasonable? He said that Isri did good to push piano yet it seemed wrong, but never explained how. Not sure why nobody pushed him on that.

author=pianotm
My solid town reads are on Cap_H, Muffle, and LockeZ.


How likely is piano to put his scumbuddy on the solid town list? Never played with piano as scum, but these three were the ones he said were definitely town. I'm aware this puts me on the list.

I feel better about LockeZ but I also know how smart he is, never seen him as scum before so I don't know how he acts, but he is a bit more aggressive and vulgar than usual. I wouldn't put it past him to be able to easily dodge being scumhunted when he's on a viable candidate list.

He also vouched for pianotm, however, I think it was maybe because of the same reason I had. We hadn't seen much different from piano. But piano also seemed to rely on LockeZ here for a minute (not sure if rely is the right word)

author=pianotm
LockeZ has probably noticed that I always tend to follow trains and vote haphazardly on day one. Sometimes, I even try to lead a bandwagon, though I will more commonly work to build up an existing one.


LockeZ hasn't said much about piano being scum, I don't think LockeZ is independent though. Demonlord mentioned that the interrogator was definitely independent and if LockeZ was independent who had interrogated Demonlord to prevent him being NK he wouldn't have said this,

author=LockeZ
For there to be no kill last night, the scum kill and the doctor would've had to target the same person. If there's a doctor, they surely targetted either themselves or demonlord, since his was the only role claim and it's an important role. So to me that makes it pretty likely that demonlord's role claim is real.


Unless I'm reading this wrong ``For there to be no kill last night, the scum kill and the doctor would've had to target the same person. If there's a doctor, they surely targetted either themselves or demonlord, since his was the only role claim and it's an important role.`` The reason demonlord wasn't attacked because he was interrogated where he couldn't even use his powers, so why would LockeZ even mentioned that they tried to target demonlord and succeeded being the reason they didn't die when demonlord made it obvious why he wasn't targeted. I would guess an interrogator is basically a jailor.

I'm wondering if maybe LockeZ is town, which could be why he's mentioned this doctor thing, and tried to target demonlord in case he was worried he'd be attacked after his vigilante claimed - just as I was. Though I'm not sure why he would mention that could be the reason demonlord survived last night.

However, I could probably be reading this wrong as I've made that mistake several times before. I'm not ruling out LockeZ out as a definite town now that I'm looking back, but I feel he's more likely to be town than Cap is.

[MAFIA] Problems at the Precinct.

So I never quite understood how trying to explain reasons as to why you said this when someone is targeting you is being stupidly defensive, it's literally just arguing your case in court towards a judge. How else am I supposed to prove I am town without giving out an explanation or something? It doesn't make sense to me why that makes me seem super defensive to the point of scum, in fact I've noticed a lot of the time when we claim someones being stupidly defensive and lynch them for that reason, they're a lot of the time town.

I was very manic on day one and so was very excitable and jokey, I was having a great time and was trolling people. That's not usually like me, so I understand why it seems I had odd behavior the first day. But I don't know how else to explain myself besides I was manic, which can greatly affect behavior. So reading my behavior from day one from how I usually play is probably not the best idea since this is the first time I've been manic in Mafia.

As for the vote, I was a bit stressed trying to figure out how to lynch. I had 9 minutes and was trying to figure out who was a more likely suspect. I hadn't noticed anything weird from piano while it seemed that demonlord was being overly defensive (he seemed to have an outburst) and overanalytical (more than he usually is). I changed on a whim because as I said, I had a realization that even though I thought demonlord was more scummy piano had never claimed and I'd rather go with the vigilante claim to live.

I've already explained my "Sorry" as an apologetic person with little time to post the big paragraph as to why I was lynching him and why I was sorry.

That grabbing at straws post was me putting pressure on Odd who seemed to be trying too hard at the moment. I was manic when I voted demonlord despite him being active, when you're manic you don't think things through or find logic in anything, I didn't care who I joke lynched and he was the first name I saw when I opened the page.

I don't see how this is scummy. I feel like when I'm town I act more scummy than when I'm scum somehow. It's like I continue to mess up and make the slightest mistakes that people then begin to over analyze and not understand it's me as a person. You've seen me as scum, I'm much more careful on how and what I post. Also, as scum, I will always try and prevent my scumbuddy from being lynched, so in no way would I really vote piano if I was scum and he was my scumbuddy, because I know by myself I'm a pretty shitty scum. In that case, I probably would've caused a no lynch. When I was scum, I didn't defend myself nearly as much as I do town.

Not sure how Cap is getting that I'm definitely scum in that last post, because he's not quoting anything about me in the post so I'm not seeing his reasoning. Right now I'm suspicious of the people so willing to vote for me, scum would probably jump on the Muffle train seeing as I'm a pretty "viable candidate" for how "scummy" I've been acting.

However, if you want to lynch me I suppose that's fine. My role probably is one of the more useless town roles of anyone else especially compared to a vigilante or doctor or defender or anything. So if there are other power roles in town I'd rather be the one to be lynched than one of those. So even though I'm having a good time if I'm lynched I guess in the end it's fine, as long as I get to participate in a dead chat. (hopefully)

Now that I'm done trying to explain why I've been acting weird. I guess I understand psy's reasoning for wanting to lynch me so bad, but he's being rather aggressive about it. Cap made a lot of posts which explained how he felt about the quotes, but some of them didn't make sense to me because they didn't rub across to me like they did him I guess. But maybe I'm just bad and understanding other people, or maybe I'm just stupid.

Currently I think demonlord is very town for obvious reasons. Even if he was scum and suggested the idea of an interrogator that prevented him from shooting and proving his claim, there's no way in hell that I'd think he could know an interrogator is in the game and how he described it and what they do, I think it's less likely it's a fake claim.

Not much to say about Gourd right now. oddRABBIT hasn't posted much today nor has he made big contributions, but that's because he's a bit self-conscious about his capabilities in Mafia. Right now I'm not extremely worried about him.

I've never seen Isrieri play but he seems to be very good at the game and very helpful, he's quiet but when he posts it's very useful information. I'd like to see him as town at the moment.

Right now I'm leaning more on Cap.

[MAFIA] Problems at the Precinct.

I'm having a bad start to the day and it's kind of frustrating being pointed at for being scum because of "behavior" that is literally just me, I can't really give a good testimony or whatever when my behavior is just me as a person and apparently it just comes off weird to you guys, not to mention I was manic yesterday. I thought you guys already knew my playstyle so it's kind of frustrating me that my normal behavior is odd for some reason, but whatever. I'll post later when I get in a better mood I guess, though there's not much I can say to get you guys to realize I'm town since you're basing your decision on my behavior.

[MAFIA] Problems at the Precinct.

Okay, just caught up on LockeZ and Isrieri's posts. I'm feeling better about LockeZ and less about Cap now that I see the points presented to me. I don't have much to say right now except,

author=LockeZ
thanks for that, Piano, you dead scum asshole.


I laughed so hard at this, damn my liking for aggressive humor.