AZNCHIPMUNK'S PROFILE

I was about to read your post but you edited it out. Stop that.

edit: Actually, I don't want to get into another 20 page religion argument. I have defended my beliefs perfectly enough in that AFD bible topic,

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The Misadventures of P.B. Winterbottom.

Is it good? I was considering buying it. I like Braid a LOT and I dunno if it'll match up since they seemed similar.

post=134795
You said that fangames suck because they 'lose the personal touch of a creator upon his work'. KOTOR 2 is NOT George Lucas's vision, it is Chris Avellone's/Obsidian's vision of the Star Wars universe and has Chris Avellone's 'touch.' It is Avellone writing a Star Wars fanfic Lucas may have kept an eye on it to make sure no Force Samurai were involved but he *did not create it* Also, Avellone *happens* to be one of the best writers in the business. I'm sure there are writers just as good as...well, I'm sure there are writers just as good as Hironobu Sakaguchi that don't work for a video game company. Heck, the KOTOR stuff is *better* than George Lucas's Episode I.

The whole part with George Lucas being involved makes a whole world of difference. Like I pointed out and you seemed to ignore, two of the original three Star Wars trilogy films were not directed by George Lucas. Hell, he did not even write the screenplay for Episode V. This is not a "fan film" because it is authorized sanction.

Saying KOTOR is like a fanfic is the same as calling two-thirds of the more popular half of the trilogy fanfics.
So 66% of the original official canon is just some dudes making a fanfic/film that has been "canonized" by george Lucas?

post=134831
I think I see what Weasel Eliot is trying to say. The difference between a fan work and an official work is authorized sanction. However, what FUNDAMENTAL quality does officially sanctioned 'fan work' have that regular fancreated works don't when it comes to how ENJOYABLE something is?

Let's say, for example you're a Star Wars fan. And you play two Star Wars video games, Star Wars 1 and Star Wars 2 (example names) unknown of who was responsible creating it. You enjoyed Star Wars 1 IMMENSELY and you think its one of your favorite games ever, however you didn't like Star Wars 2 at all and you thought it was really bad.

Later on, you find out that Star Wars 1 was a complete fan work, and you find out that Star Wars 2 was completely official, licensced, Lucas Works, the whole shebang. Now that you know this about both games, are you going to RETROACTIVELY change your opinion and go "WAIT NO STAR WARS 1 WASN'T REALLY THAT FUN IT WAS A FANGAME UHHH STAR WARS 2 IS PROBABLY BETTER THAN I REMBERED"

I am seeing what he's trying to say, I just disagree. I did say that fangames are not necessarily worse in my post 2 pages back (the first one where I started disagreeing.) Fangames are not automatically worse or better.

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Are you replying to me? You do know that I'm saying the exact same thing: That the factor that distinguishes a fanwork from official work is the sanctioning from the original creator. It has NOTHING to do with the quality of the product.

Yes it does. While it is not inherently better, you are not taking into account the fact that the people who create the official work have "authorized sanction" because they know what they are doing and can produce quality. I'm not saying it's not possible to make a good fangame, as I stated in my first argument post, fangames are not necessarily any worse but there is like a 80% chance they just suck, because there are many flaws inherent in making a fangame.

I typed it in to search for him in order to confirm that I remembered him! I remember his old welcome topic.

post=134739
My point is: What is a fangame, if it isn't someone else *not the original creator* putting their spin on a certain universe? Chris Avellone is not George Lucas. The only dividing line between a fan game and an official sequel is appraisal by the company. The word fangame has bad connotations but when you look at it from a design/art perspective, there's no difference. If you look at Sonic Chronicles, the only thing Bioware had over say, Sonic Fan Games HQ is resources, staff, etc. The Bioware Doctor behind that game probably dug up his reserve of Sonic fanfiction for that game, and if Enterbrain gave us slightly better software then anyone could have made that game. But let's just agree to disagree.

"The only dividing line between a fan game and an official sequel is appraisal by the company."
Yes, and this is a lot. KOTOR is part of an "official" canon because it is appraised by LucasArts, which is a subsidiary of LucasFilm. People ACTUALLY INVOLVED with the group that created the Star Wars films are involved with putting out KOTOR. Chris Avellone is not just some random dude on the street and KOTOR is not merely the result of him, nor is Star Wars merely the result of George Lucas.

Meanwhile, your CT/FF6/FF7/DW fangame made on RPGMaker will never get noticed by Square-Enix.


The person most tied to being the "creator" or a film is the director (I'm a occasional filmmaker myself) and yes, George Lucas "created" Star Wars. But did you know George Lucas only directed one out of three of the original Star Wars films? Two different other guys directed V and VI. Would you call those "fanmovies?" I don't think so.

We can agree to disagree if you can't defend your point anymore (lol you give up) but honestly, you just sound like you're providing excuses for the fact that you are making a fangame.

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WeaselEliot: I don't agree with some of the things you say, and you made a post that made me believe you're making a fangame because you're too lazy to make an original one. I'm really in no mood to discuss this phrase-by-phrase like some of you are doing... I'll just say that if you're really working on a fangame, after this topic you have a big responsability in your hands. Huge.

Yeah. After all you've said... You better produce a mindblowingly good fangame or we'll all be severely disappointed.

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kentona: It's your choice not to play any games, I just think you shouldn't be so proud about it. You're an example for this community, and in this particular case, a bad one.

lol. kentona.