FATHER: MONSTER MAKING EVENT

Hello RMN. For those of you who are interested in Father, thanks for showing your support. I really appreciate it. Today, I have a mini event that will be taking place. Here are the details:

Example enemies:


Mr. Fowl


Scaredy Cat

Info: Father encompasses an era where human influence has become very strong on wild life and insect life. The main reason for this is GOODY Corp, an unethical corporation, that will do ANYTHING to progress. Thus, wild life has suffered from their continuous forced natural selection, chemical emissions, and overall human influence. So, the monsters should be based off of real animals. That's the cutting point. I guess it is in a way like Mother 3 but the choices you can make are endless.

Running Time: Until Development Finishes.

Objective: Father isn't using Mother 3 enemies any more. I kinda found that to be quite tacky. Thus, I am beginning to create my own monsters for the game. The monsters are going to be influenced by the world. Essentially, the world is corrupting the wild life and upsetting the balance between humans and animals/insects. So... anything goes!

Rules/Conditions

A.) All participants must send me a submission form to be considered.

Here's a downloadable version that you can send me: http://rpgmaker.net/users/Ljink/locker/FATHER_MONSTER_SUBMISSON_FORM.docx

You can also view the information and fill the form out on the Monster Maker Page.

B.) You may submit any number of monsters you want. You can send the sketches via PM or post it on this blog.

C.) Monsters must not use any strong sexual references. I know Crack Cocanine is going a bit far but there's not crack on the dog to be seen. In other words, I don't wanna see bananas, cherrys, or anything of the sort. Unless they are properly clothed.

D.)You must send it as a PNG file!!!
I will not accept any jpg, bmp, or any other file formats. Naturally, cameras take jpegs but you can find numerous raster based programs that allow you to export to PNG.

*REMINDER* The maximum monster size is 128x128 Pixels. That isn't the maximum file size but the monsters will be made in a 128x128 all the way down to a 16x16.

My only hope is that you have fun with this and you'll be able to see your monster in Father when it is released. Until then, you can try out a demo of the game that encompasses what it might be like.

The only incentive for you to participate is that you'll be noted in the credits and you'll be aiding in the creation of Father. I'm not asking that you do picasso work here. Just a sketch that you would make in your notes or something. I have plenty of ideas, I just thought it would be cool if enemies from RMN were on here. But I guess I'm not that popular to run such an event.

Example Submission:

author=Ratty524
What is the game about, story-wise? I think that would help with people who want to come up with ideas.

Story: Father encompasses an era where human influence has become very strong on wild life and insect life. The main reason for this is GOODY Corp, an unethical corporation, that will do ANYTHING to progress. Thus, wild life has suffered from their continuous forced natural selection and chemical emissions. So, the monsters should be based off of real animals. That's the cutting point. I guess it is in a way like Mother 3 but the choices you can make are endless.

As far as character story progression, I am currently working on a story that reflects the changes being made to the game.

author=Pizza
Why should I want to design monsters for nothing in return? The monster concept idea of corrupted nature is literally 100% the concept of Mother 3 enemies, so why not just use them? Everything else in the game is ripped anyways.

Normally I'm very supportive of going custom, but it seems like you're doing this to try and skirt the edge of having your game called a Mother knockoff.

idk maybe im a dick

True, corrupted nature is a concept but it doesn't necessarily belong to a certain series. That's like saying Man vs. Beast belongs to Moby Dick.

I know most of the game's graphics are rips, some are custom edits from designers that work on Pokemon hacks that I have gotten permission to use as long as I credit them. I'm not top notch game developer. I don't have much to offer. I just thought this would be a fun event for people to participate in and overall, just a fun game for the community to play.

I also go lightly on Fangame as of now. The game started off as a Mother fan game but it just didn't want to go that route. It is simply inspired by it and many other games. Character rips, unless they're important NPCs, shouldn't be that big of a deal and form the feedback I'm getting, it isn't. It's the important characters that matter. That's why I won't be using Mother 3 enemies because you can recognize them. Once again, as for the graphics, I can't really just go off on a tangent and make my own. I'm not trying to impress anyone with my graphical skill but rather I want a solid game to be enjoyed by all different kinds of people.

I posted this on Starmen and Dragon Quest den and they're all for it. I understand, well mostly I don't understand, but I will try to understand the frustration behind your thinking. If you don't want to design monsters, then don't. I didn't force anyone to. I just thought it would be fun. I'm doing most of them, I just thought, hey why not let RMN make a few monsters. I don't see what the deal is with that. I guess knockoff would be a more fitting description. And to be honest, I'm not bothered by that. I just want to make a decent game and sometimes the money and resources aren't there to go fully custom. And this is an indie, pre made game engine, that this game is running on. There's only so much I can do.

author=charblar

author=TFT

author=Pizza
idk maybe im a dick

yeah, probably.

Pizza is right though, the game is a bunch of rips compiled into a game at this point it wouldn't be unjust to not make your own enemies and it's not even a contest seeing it's basically he'll take it if he likes it.

What do you suggest I do then? A poll? I've already changed it to "Event". I'm a very easy going guy so I don't understand the stigma that's being evoked towards me. I find that even if the game is just rips, it shouldn't deduct from the actual game you'll play. Like...I've already stated that I'm no great spriter or anything. Given those circumstances, what is it that you all want me to do? Some say it's fine, others are so polar about it. My mind tells me to ignore but I can't ignore it, obviously it's an issue. But it is an issue that quite frankly, I can't help.

Yeah, I'll say it's a knockoff. But are graphics that important to you all? If you guys don't like the concept that much why do you continue to post on it? You don't have to be involved. It's kinda frustrating me. I can take criticism but this game isn't something that is supposed to be fully custom. Once again, I just thought it would be fun to do an event like this. I don't want to be biased, what do you suggest then?

author=Liberty
The thing is nobody does something for nothing. It's different for a site-hosted event as they get the nod from staff and usually have some sort of compensation, be it MS, a steam game or just a badge (and being able to brag) but tagging something as an event doesn't change the fact that you'll be getting peoples' ideas and work for nothing.

Some people won't mind. Some people will. The fact of the matter is this - less people are likely to want to put their ideas into something that isn't 100% original, especially if you're already using rips of a game and could use more rips to fix the issue.

If you're hurting for monster ideas you could just take those monster ideas from Earthbound and slam 'em together. Or take a look at any list of generic RPG monsters and make puns of them like the Earthbound team did.

Quite frankly, no-one knows your game or you, so they won't feel inclined to help for no reason.

Just close the thread. Do something to it. People are being rude. I'm not HURTING for enemies. I just thought it would be cool for everyone to take part in some monster creation, talent or no talent. I really just thought this up real quick after the first 2 enemies. Why the hate? A soft, "no" would suffice. I get it, people don't wanna work for free. Even something as simple as this:



a simple thing. Uploaded in seconds. Just forget it. You don't finish one game... just forget I said anything. It pains me to read this. Please, just close it.

author=Liberty
The reason I reiterate a point is because I have the memory of a goldfish and can't be bothered to check my previous post when writing something up. Also, because I've met a lot of people who just read half a post and ignore what they don't want to hear (it happens more than you think) so I've trained myself to point things out more than once when it's a pertinent point. Oh, and expanding on it a bit more is another thing I've been trained to do. >.<;

Also, people aren't deliberately being rude to you. Could they be gentler in saying their opinion? Probably. Should they change how they react to everyone and everything - change who they are - because some people are more easily affected by tone and words used? I don't think so, but that's their choice. Don't take things so much to heart or as an insult against yourself, okay?

Don't give up on the 'dream' - ask on your game page and you will be more likely to get people wanting to help than here in the forums. The people there know you and your game and are more likely to want to help since they're fans.

Sorry if this didn't turn out the way you wanted but sometimes things don't. Just pick yourself up, dust yourself off and continue working on it. >.<)b

Yeah, Okay. People think I'm tough but inside, I'm just a big softee so sometimes emotions get the best of me. I understand the logic going on here. Can't just walk into Nintendo demanding a job with no credentials. I just got here a few years ago, didn't know the site was so big.