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FREE THE GAMES FRAUD & OUYA
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In a nutshell, OUYA promised to match up to $50,000 in funds for a successful Kickstarter project for an OUYA game, in exchange for 6 months of exclusivity for the OUYA console. Only 2 games made its goals Gridiron Thunder and Elementary, My Dear Holmes. Holmes was later suspended by Kickstarter for suspected fraudulent activity. Gridiron went on though (despite even more ludicrous suspicious activity). To make matters worse, OUYA announced that they are going to honor the deal!
Now a bunch of OUYA devs are like "WTF." and are pulling their games or stopping development/ports to OUYA.
Lots of links (most are pretty short!):
https://www.ouya.tv/lets-talk-about-the-free-the-games-fund/
http://www.joystiq.com/2013/09/09/gridiron-thunder-ouya-kickstarter-concludes-with-171k-many-que/
http://www.joystiq.com/2013/09/11/developers-react-to-ouyas-defense-of-free-the-games-fund/
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1997247042/gridiron-thunder-awesome-indie-football-game-for-o/comments?cursor=4185299#comment-4185298
http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/1997247042/gridiron-thunder-awesome-indie-football-game-for-o/#chart-daily
http://www.sophiehoulden.com/rose-and-time-no-longer-on-ouya/
Like wow.
I guess this is what happens when you put up a "Please Scam Us!" sign in your lobby.
"It wasn't just 8 backers at 10k, it was 14 (6 said no thanks to a reward). Also, there were 5 backers at $5k that said no thanks to a reward. In all, $165k of the $171k funded came from 19 backers."
In a nutshell, OUYA promised to match up to $50,000 in funds for a successful Kickstarter project for an OUYA game, in exchange for 6 months of exclusivity for the OUYA console. Only 2 games made its goals Gridiron Thunder and Elementary, My Dear Holmes. Holmes was later suspended by Kickstarter for suspected fraudulent activity. Gridiron went on though (despite even more ludicrous suspicious activity). To make matters worse, OUYA announced that they are going to honor the deal!
Now a bunch of OUYA devs are like "WTF." and are pulling their games or stopping development/ports to OUYA.
Lots of links (most are pretty short!):
https://www.ouya.tv/lets-talk-about-the-free-the-games-fund/
http://www.joystiq.com/2013/09/09/gridiron-thunder-ouya-kickstarter-concludes-with-171k-many-que/
http://www.joystiq.com/2013/09/11/developers-react-to-ouyas-defense-of-free-the-games-fund/
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1997247042/gridiron-thunder-awesome-indie-football-game-for-o/comments?cursor=4185299#comment-4185298
http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/1997247042/gridiron-thunder-awesome-indie-football-game-for-o/#chart-daily
http://www.sophiehoulden.com/rose-and-time-no-longer-on-ouya/
The game had just 183 total backers, making for a rate of $934.48 per person. In recent months, the closest any project has come to that average is Yargis, which had an average of $275.05 per backer thanks to a lone $5,000 pledge. The results of 84 projects in the past three months revealed a mean average of $50.59 pledged per person, making Gridiron Thunder a statistical anomaly.
Like wow.
I guess this is what happens when you put up a "Please Scam Us!" sign in your lobby.
"It wasn't just 8 backers at 10k, it was 14 (6 said no thanks to a reward). Also, there were 5 backers at $5k that said no thanks to a reward. In all, $165k of the $171k funded came from 19 backers."
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
5958
So, uh, OUYA decided to honor its deal to give money to developers, and as a result a bunch of developers are mad and are pulling their games? Wut?
I don't get it. One project was cancelled, so who cares about that one any more. And the second one is suspicious, but they have no actual evidence of foul play and they made a deal to give this indie dev money, so I'd think people would be screaming highway robbery if they didn't give him the money they promised? Like, it's worth investigating, but you can't just say "We're going to not give you the money we promised because our gut tells us there's a chance you might be trying to rip us off." That's not how contracts work.
I understand why OUYA is concerned about this but not why anyone else is.
I don't get it. One project was cancelled, so who cares about that one any more. And the second one is suspicious, but they have no actual evidence of foul play and they made a deal to give this indie dev money, so I'd think people would be screaming highway robbery if they didn't give him the money they promised? Like, it's worth investigating, but you can't just say "We're going to not give you the money we promised because our gut tells us there's a chance you might be trying to rip us off." That's not how contracts work.
I understand why OUYA is concerned about this but not why anyone else is.
Mostly because it is a scam, and people hate being played for fools.
"It is quite clear, and they have admitted to, a majority of their backers being friends and family. Their game is coming out in weeks. It doesn't need funding. All they are doing is stealing money from you and doubling up their friend's money. Stealing money from all of us along the way, because hard as it may be to remember, it's us backers who made Ouya what it is today. We're the ones that funded your project as well. Do you think we enjoy seeing the result of our pledges amount to $171k getting sent to some rich Californian lawyer and his friends just so some unfinished-looking football game will be on Ouya exclusively for six months? Do you think that exclusive deal will make more Ouya owners happy than the amount of Ouya owners this has pissed off?"
So basically $171k is NOT going towards game development by indies. It is instead going towards a scammer. And OUYA is cool with that. Why WOULD ouya devs NOT be mad/question the leadership of ouya/abandon ouya development?
"It is quite clear, and they have admitted to, a majority of their backers being friends and family. Their game is coming out in weeks. It doesn't need funding. All they are doing is stealing money from you and doubling up their friend's money. Stealing money from all of us along the way, because hard as it may be to remember, it's us backers who made Ouya what it is today. We're the ones that funded your project as well. Do you think we enjoy seeing the result of our pledges amount to $171k getting sent to some rich Californian lawyer and his friends just so some unfinished-looking football game will be on Ouya exclusively for six months? Do you think that exclusive deal will make more Ouya owners happy than the amount of Ouya owners this has pissed off?"
So basically $171k is NOT going towards game development by indies. It is instead going towards a scammer. And OUYA is cool with that. Why WOULD ouya devs NOT be mad/question the leadership of ouya/abandon ouya development?
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
5958
The other game devs aren't losing anything, except maybe they're feeling jealous that they didn't think of scamming OUYA first? This seemingly hurts no one except OUYA, and they're okay with it. Which from a legal standpoint, makes sense; if they accused the footbal game dev of anything right now it would be slander and they would get sued.
I mean it's been like, what, a day? Give them a couple months to investigate the issue and sort through the legal bullshit, jesus.
I mean it's been like, what, a day? Give them a couple months to investigate the issue and sort through the legal bullshit, jesus.
author=LockeZ
The other game devs aren't losing anything.
The funding for it is coming out of a shared pool to be distributed to other games.
author=LockeZRight. It hurts OUYA, it hurts their brand. The net affect is going to hurt the entire Ouya ecosphere. If I hitched my wagon to that, I would be mad at Ouya.
The other game devs aren't losing anything, except maybe they're feeling jealous that they didn't think of scamming OUYA first? This seemingly hurts no one except OUYA, and they're okay with it. Which from a legal standpoint, makes sense; if they accused the footbal game dev of anything right now it would be slander and they would get sued.
I mean it's been like, what, a day? Give them a couple months to investigate the issue and sort through the legal bullshit, jesus.
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
5958
author=SaileriusOh, this makes sense then. The articles made it sound like they weren't funding any other games except these two. And I was like, "Well, I think they're being ripped off, but it's their money."author=LockeZThe funding for it is coming out of a shared pool to be distributed to other games.
The other game devs aren't losing anything.
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