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MUSEUM OF MODERN ART (NEW YORK) ACQUIRED A SELECTION OF 14 VIDEO GAMES
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iddalai
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This I didn't expect, I think it's a good thing, the comments are as expected mostly awful, a lot of video game players still lack maturity.
I actually believe the first 14 video games were well thought of.
My suggestions would be:
- Rez
- Shadow of the Colossus
- ICO
- Shadow of Memories/Destiny
I'm quite indecisive in what RPGs should be good representatives of the genre and experience.
This I didn't expect, I think it's a good thing, the comments are as expected mostly awful, a lot of video game players still lack maturity.
I actually believe the first 14 video games were well thought of.
My suggestions would be:
- Rez
- Shadow of the Colossus
- ICO
- Shadow of Memories/Destiny
I'm quite indecisive in what RPGs should be good representatives of the genre and experience.
It looks like they're interested in Chrono Trigger... as far as RPGs go, it could be worse.
Yea, I'd have a hard time picking a JRPG that would represent the genre well. Maybe FF7 because so many people know it and it incorporates 99% of what people think JRPG means, but I'm not sure if I think it's fantastic enough to go into a museum.
Yea, I'd have a hard time picking a JRPG that would represent the genre well. Maybe FF7 because so many people know it and it incorporates 99% of what people think JRPG means, but I'm not sure if I think it's fantastic enough to go into a museum.
I pretty much agree with their selections. I would probably put Braid in there, too. If I were to pick a JRPG to put in there, it would probably be Persona 3 Portable.
Sana
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author=kentonaMy thoughts exactly, lol and I laughed when I saw Katamari Damacy on their list, though it was a fun game~ :3
Ummmm... where is Super Mario Bros?
One of the Final Fantasies(most likely 7 because of that massive fanbase/sales it has) will probably be going up on the list as well.
Id' like to kindly drag your attention to this part of the article:
"Over the next few years, we would like to complete this initial selection with Spacewar! (1962), an assortment of games for the Magnavox Odyssey console (1972), Pong (1972), Snake (originally designed in the 1970s; Nokia phone version dates from 1997), Space Invaders (1978), Asteroids (1979), Zork (1979), Tempest (1981), Donkey Kong (1981), Yars’ Revenge (1982), M.U.L.E. (1983), Core War (1984), Marble Madness (1984), Super Mario Bros. (1985), The Legend of Zelda (1986), NetHack (1987), Street Fighter II (1991), Chrono Trigger (1995), Super Mario 64 (1996), Grim Fandango (1998), Animal Crossing (2001), and Minecraft (2011)."
And there should be more after these.
I'm actually playing Braid for the first time right now, it's great. It should be in that list sometime soon.
"Over the next few years, we would like to complete this initial selection with Spacewar! (1962), an assortment of games for the Magnavox Odyssey console (1972), Pong (1972), Snake (originally designed in the 1970s; Nokia phone version dates from 1997), Space Invaders (1978), Asteroids (1979), Zork (1979), Tempest (1981), Donkey Kong (1981), Yars’ Revenge (1982), M.U.L.E. (1983), Core War (1984), Marble Madness (1984), Super Mario Bros. (1985), The Legend of Zelda (1986), NetHack (1987), Street Fighter II (1991), Chrono Trigger (1995), Super Mario 64 (1996), Grim Fandango (1998), Animal Crossing (2001), and Minecraft (2011)."
And there should be more after these.
author=Sailerius
I would probably put Braid in there, too.
I'm actually playing Braid for the first time right now, it's great. It should be in that list sometime soon.
It wasn't part of the original 14. Why? That is what I have issue with.
So I ask, where is Super Mario Bros?
So I ask, where is Super Mario Bros?
There's no Nintendo games on there. They may have had trouble getting the rights to it.
Oh geez, half of the comments are just people posting lists of their favorite games.
Oh geez, half of the comments are just people posting lists of their favorite games.
Nintendo is usually pretty fierce with their videogame rights, they didn't even want to do a cellphone version of Super Mario Bros (I remember reading about this)
So I guess they're having some troubles with getting everything they legally need to add Super Mario Bros. But this is just my opinion.
For me it's not an issue that Super Mario Bros isn't in the first 14, just because these are the first it doesn't make them better than the others.
So I guess they're having some troubles with getting everything they legally need to add Super Mario Bros. But this is just my opinion.
For me it's not an issue that Super Mario Bros isn't in the first 14, just because these are the first it doesn't make them better than the others.
Sana
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author=slashphoenixI'd be shouting out for why Dot Hack didn't make it, lol though I said FF7 because it was "such" an outbreak of goodness back in the day. (Go Dot Hack~ R.I.P. in the hall of fame! XD)
Oh geez, half of the comments are just people posting lists of their favorite games.
Dyhalto
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author=kentona
So I ask, where is Super Mario Bros?
I wonder if there's some petty royalty rights issue going on, which is why we don't see Nintendo (compay) games.
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
5958
author=Dyhaltoauthor=kentonaI wonder if there's some petty royalty rights issue going on, which is why we don't see Nintendo (compay) games.
So I ask, where is Super Mario Bros?
Royalty rights to have a single copy of a game displayed in the NY Museum of Modern Art as one of the greatest games of all time? Wut? That'd be like charging an advertising firm royalties to put your company's name on a billboard. More like Nintendo wasn't willing to pay the museum as much as the other developers were, IMO.
Also, they said that their games were chosen for "outstanding examples of interaction design" which is why Katamari Damacy is on there and RPGs aren't. But really it's probably just the favorite games of the people on the committee, plus Passage and Myst to give them art cred, and Pacman and Tetris to give them gamer cred. EVE Online is the one that strikes me as weird - I'm not sure how an online game can be displayed in a museum. When the servers go down in a year or two, will they remove it from the museum?
What's interesting is that there are games I've never heard of on the list. Canabalt is a freaking Flash game - it's just Robot Unicorn Attack without the robot unicorn. It's honestly just Press A to Not Die: The Game with shorter and shorter warnings to press A, so I am curious what they saw in it. I suspect one of the people on the committee probably just really liked Robot Unicorn Attack but couldn't get away with including something with a name like Robot Unicorn Attack in a museum. Passage I've actually played, but forgot about it five seconds later so I didn't recognize the name. It has literally no interaction so I don't really think it fits their supposed criteria, but it's extremely "artsy" so I'm not at all surprised they included it.
It's likely that a massive AAA company probably has more hoops to jump through. For Canabalt they just have to ask Adam Saltsman and that dude was probably just like "hell yea I'm in", issue resolved - if he had to pay to be included I'm sure Nintendo would have no problem, because Saltsman can't be that loaded.
Canabalt is a very well-known game for its aesthetic, focused gameplay and for coming out right around when indie games started becoming mainstream. It did come out before Robot Unicorn Attack, if that makes a difference.
I've never played EVE online, but isn't there a huge economy system involved? That seems like an interesting enough reason to me.
Canabalt is a very well-known game for its aesthetic, focused gameplay and for coming out right around when indie games started becoming mainstream. It did come out before Robot Unicorn Attack, if that makes a difference.
I've never played EVE online, but isn't there a huge economy system involved? That seems like an interesting enough reason to me.
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
5958
How the crap do you interactively display an mmo's economy system in a museum
I have absolutely no idea. I actually don't really know what EVE Online plays like, whenever I see screenshots it's just menus. All menus. Menus as far as the eye can see.
I haven't played most of these games but their fame precedes them so I guess they're good choices to get things started. My only two objections from the 'mainstream' picks would be Another World and Vib-ribbon... Parappa the Rapper or Umm Jamer Lammy (Better gameplay) would have been a better choice for a PSX-Era rhythm game. And well, I know Another World's vector graphics were quite revolutionary for their time, but I doubt anyone could derive genuine enjoyment from such a game. =/
What I don't get at all are some the 'indie' picks but sadly that's the kind of thing that is considered cool these days: half-cocked ideas passed as games, for either vain minutes of entertainment or some kind of epiphany about life... Games like Braid would have been a better choice. I still don't get what kind of "deep meaning" people find in it, but at least the gameplay is solid.
On regards of RPGs I'd say that Final Fantasy 7 would be a pretty good choice, actually, but something tells me they probably wouldn't like to feature a game so far on the series. The only game part of a series they have in there is Street Fighter 2 and that's only because we all know Street Fighter doesn't exist. =P ...So with that in mind I'd go for Valkyrie profile or Xenogears.
Also, I'm quite disappointed there are no plans to add Doom or at least Wolfestein 3D to that list...
What I don't get at all are some the 'indie' picks but sadly that's the kind of thing that is considered cool these days: half-cocked ideas passed as games, for either vain minutes of entertainment or some kind of epiphany about life... Games like Braid would have been a better choice. I still don't get what kind of "deep meaning" people find in it, but at least the gameplay is solid.
On regards of RPGs I'd say that Final Fantasy 7 would be a pretty good choice, actually, but something tells me they probably wouldn't like to feature a game so far on the series. The only game part of a series they have in there is Street Fighter 2 and that's only because we all know Street Fighter doesn't exist. =P ...So with that in mind I'd go for Valkyrie profile or Xenogears.
Also, I'm quite disappointed there are no plans to add Doom or at least Wolfestein 3D to that list...
Mr_Detective
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If I see a single COD game in that list, they would lose all their credibility from me...
But I would like to see Counter Strike, Half Life, Mega Man on there. :P
This game deserves some love, too.
But I would like to see Counter Strike, Half Life, Mega Man on there. :P
This game deserves some love, too.
