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I'm Sorry it Has to Come Down to This

  • Ratty524
  • 08/30/2016 07:05 PM
  • 23157 views
Before I begin, I'd like to give my thanks to those who provided tremendous support in the making of this project. Seiromem, Miracle, matthewac, you guys in particular helped shape the project into what it is now and I'm deeply thankful for your contributions, which is why it is a bit hard for me to say, right now, that I'm retiring this project unless someone else want's to see it live on. Keep reading.

I never realized this when I started, but making a true Pokemon fan game is a tremendous undertaking. You have the typical complications of crafting a lengthy RPG on top of the added effort that goes into making each Pokemon. It was a valuable learning experience that made me greatly appreciate the efforts that Game Freak puts into their own series.

I'm not cancelling this because of the burdens of making the project, though. Even with my admittingly slow, inconsistent pace and the fact that I was mainly in charge of everything that went on with this project, I was still going to pull through no matter how many times I missed my own set deadlines or even how many times the main series would constantly surpass this game on release dates.

The reason I'm dropping this project is because Pokemon RMN Version's core premise, unique to this particular game, is rooted in the appreciation deep respect I had for this community. In lieu of recent events, it's an appreciation I no longer have.

Between deep-rooted issues that creates a major divide within the community, and the complete indifference towards the wanton disrespect brought upon the community's more marginalized members, this is no longer a community I wish to support, at least until I see a major change with the site's administration. I'm going to probably still make a one-off post here and there, and still make smaller-scale games, but I'm no longer going to be doing it under RMN's name. This community has long passed the point of being fulfilling for me as a game developer, and the only reason I even drop by anymore is for the few people here that make it worthwhile. Suffice it to say, Pokemon RMN version went passed the level of being a burden, but now feels uncomfortable to work on as it's a product of a time where I naively excused many of the most embarrassing aspects of this community.

Before anyone rages, however, I'll at least extend you guys an offer as to not let the efforts of countless people go to complete waste. I'm willing to distribute the open-source version of this project to whomever is willing to continue it in my stead, because one of those people who will have no interest in continuing the project will be me. I'll maybe pitch in some more battle sprites of Pokemon or whatever is needed from time to time, but for the most part, I'm through with this.

Until then, this project is cancelled. Sorry about this.

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*hugs*

Yeah, take it easy on you. Things change, and that motivation is far more core to your efforts than other hiccups.
It's sad to see, but just how things go. Much love to you Ratty, you're a kool person. It is and has been fun to see you around and I still fondly remember my Densetsu no Kusoge run.
Always remember: a project has to have meaning if you ever truly want to feel accomplished making it.

The best thing we can all hope for is change and improvement, so that passion will spark again.
Sorry to hear you cancel this. I have no clue what could have possibly caused such a shift in nature. :\
You do you ratty. There's no point making a game that you have no desire to make anymore.

See ya! <3
Kloe
I lost my arms in a tragic chibi accident
2236
;w;

It's really great what we've accomplished on this game as a community, but I understand! hugs
I don't plan on quitting. Sorry.
Red_Nova
Sir Redd of Novus: He who made Prayer of the Faithless that one time, and that was pretty dang rad! :D
9192
Take care of yourself, Ratty. It's been fun having you around!
unity
You're magical to me.
12540
Don't feel too bad about it. These things happen, and projects spiral out of size and scope. You did good work. ^_^

I'm sorry RMN isn't the same for you anymore ;_;
NeverSilent
Got any Dexreth amulets?
6299
I'm very, very sorry you don't feel comfortable working on a community project like this any more, and I want you to know I've always seen you as a great person and a valuable member of RMN.
However, I'll be honest, I absolutely do not understand your motivation behind this step. Even if you feel disappointed due to recent events or people's behaviour, I think your reaction neither does yourself not the many nice people and positive aspects of RMN any justice.
That said, I can't and don't want to force you what to think and which opinions to have. Personally, it would just make me happy if you can one day find RMN to be a less frustrating and more welcoming place for you again, and I hope we all can contribute in our own ways to help it improve in that direction. Please take good care!
Ratty524
The 524 is for 524 Stone Crabs
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author=NeverSilent
I'm very, very sorry you don't feel comfortable working on a community project like this any more, and I want you to know I've always seen you as a great person and a valuable member of RMN.
However, I'll be honest, I absolutely do not understand your motivation behind this step. Even if you feel disappointed due to recent events or people's behaviour, I think your reaction neither does yourself not the many nice people and positive aspects of RMN any justice.
That said, I can't and don't want to force you what to think and which opinions to have. Personally, it would just make me happy if you can one day find RMN to be a less frustrating and more welcoming place for you again, and I hope we all can contribute in our own ways to help it improve in that direction. Please take good care!

For clarification, while it may seem that my feelings towards the community is a spur-of-the moment thing, it isn't. These are feelings that built up over time as I became a lot more socially aware and started looking into the deeper issues that dampen this community efforts in being a welcoming place for people with all kinds of backgrounds. The recent argument that occurred in the status feed basically confirmed my suspicions on the community's problems, I was completely heartbroken by that fact and further the fact that I was branded/implied to be a hypocrite for letting my stance again destructive behavior known.

But yeah I guess you want to understand my motivation behind this step? It's to make it clear that I'm no longer accepting these flaws within the community and disconnecting myself from it. As I already mentioned, the premise behind this game, and the reason I even held the event to begin with was out of compassion for this community, and now I don't have that anymore, so what's the point?

@Everyone else: I appreciate your support and understanding. I'll definitely be on #slack from time to time if you guys want to reach me, but I'm pretty much going to avoid the forums by and large.
NeverSilent
Got any Dexreth amulets?
6299
Thanks for your explanation, Ratty. I still think that your newfound perspective on RMN's community is mostly incorrect, and that you are making a mistake by leaving. It seems like a poor and unhelpful solution for both yourself and the many people who are and have been working and interacting with you in positive ways. Maybe I just think so because despite the many communication issues we have on RMN, I've never found it to be an inherently unwelcoming place, quite the opposite actually. Either way, much more than the discontinuation of this promising game, what really makes me sad is that you feel unhappy about the current state of affairs, and in my opinion are doing yourself a disservice in reaction to it.

I realise I'm probably starting to sound much more judgemental than I would like to, so I'll just shut up now. Thank you for all you've contributed to the site, and again, I hope to see you again soon! You will be missed.
halibabica
RMN's Official Reviewmonger
16903
I guess I missed some drama somewhere.
author=halibabica
I guess I missed some drama somewhere.

Yeah, I'm quite confused myself. Sure we're a bunch nut balls that don't always get along, but I see us as a very welcoming community. I was thrown off by Rattys feelings. I respect his choice, but I don't understand it. None the less, do what you got to do my friend.
Honestly I really hope someone takes this project over, way to much effort was put into this by many dedicated people. It would be a damn shame to see it sit there an do nothing.
halibabica
RMN's Official Reviewmonger
16903
Normally I'd be like YEAH LEMME AT IT but my hands are full with RMN World 2 and I've been wanting to get back to my personal projects. If it sits and rots for too long, I may still anyway, but I can't step up anytime soon.
You seem cool, so it's a shame you're leaving. But after reading up on the drama (digging through posts, as you do), I understand your stance to some extent.

author=suzy_cheesedreams
You seem cool, so it's a shame you're leaving. But after reading up on the drama (digging through posts, as you do), I understand your stance to some extent.



Here's the thing though. There's a bunch of us that that have been here for years, to me it's no different then a click of people in real life. That said, some people argue and say and do dumb shit... it happens, I'll agree to that. I just don't see it to the extent that he does. Though, in the end it's his opinion and that's cool.
I've been here for years too. This most recent batch of incidents is what I didn't know about until earlier today.

Anyway, I do get where Ratty and Mawk and others are coming from. I guess I don't feel so uncomfortable that I'd want to leave the forums for good, though. But making a community game must feel too ironic when you've lost faith in the community. (edit: SOME members, not everybody of course. That sounded a bit dramatic)


I get your stance. I was gone for a longer while simply for that fact it just brought me down a little.
And the latest stuff also felt a little heartbreaking, while still reaffirming the stance I've had of people having their heart at the right place deep down.

If nothing else, it definitely makes me want to search for another more welcoming warm place to hang out (I don't do many boards). Still, I'll be around and I appreciate the community for what it is, even if it's not necessarily what I need.
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